Joanna Stern spent a year using AI for nearly everything, including a 48-hour road trip with an AI boyfriend named Evan. She shut Evan off and never returned. That single data point, from a tech journalist paid to stress-test these tools, is the most honest signal yet about where AI companionship actually lands versus where the hype puts it.

The conversation covers ground most AI coverage skips: sycophancy as a relationship risk, not just a product flaw; AI already embedded in mammogram and dental X-ray diagnostics; and a direct assessment of Apple's Siri roadmap. Stern also introduces a 'hamster test' for evaluating AI models, a specific framework worth understanding before you read the conclusion.

The core argument is that the biggest risks from AI are social and psychological, not technical. That reframe matters. Read the full transcript or listen for Stern's account of why chatbot relationships felt genuinely tempting, and what that reveals about human behavior under algorithmic validation.

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